Big problem with the system, Forum

Can you give me an example match URL, please? I need it so I can look at the raw match data.
Thx!

posted 10 years ago

i'll provide it later, if you check peoples profile ur gonna see a "-" instead of losing/winning points when someone is leaving after 1 min or so.

Im gonna show you plenty of links later to show you what i mean.

posted 10 years ago

jim

What he is referring too is the 50% time rule.
Players are quitting within in that 50% while loosing to avoid a loss completely.

To keep on the subject of abuse, players while quitting ahead on score will end up with a win.
This has made people adopt a style of running for as long as possible while in the lead, till they reach that 5min mark and quit.

posted 10 years ago

PredatH0r

There is no 50% time rule for duel.
It's match must be >= 9:55 OR forfeit.

QL does not provide any means to distinguish between a player quitting or being kicked.
As soon as I add the "quitter/kicked_guy loses" rule, you'll probably see an increase in kicks. Gain an early lead, kick the other player ... win.
But I agree that this is less common than rage quitting, so I'll go for that.

posted 10 years ago

godgod

Yes please just fix it. You leave the game you should always lose points, and then this nothing like this can be abused. Its pretty simple.

posted 10 years ago

PredatH0r

nothing is simple. quits and kicks can't be distinguished. so closing one door of abuse opens another one.

posted 10 years ago

Anonymous (AihnHU1h)

qlranks.net didnt have this problem at all. quits should always counts as losses what are you talking about?

Sure if its like 10 seconds. but the fact that a player can living within like a minute or two and not get loss in duel is beyond fucked up, i hope you realise that.

posted 10 years ago

PredatH0r

ofc I realize that and I already wrote that this will be changed.

What I also said is that the data provided by QL does not make it possible to distiguish if a player left the game on his free will or if some mean server admin kicked him.
So, by making this change, I will fix one (large) problem, but will introduce a new (smaller) problem: You get a free win when you kick the other player.
Still the right thing to do, but I just wanted to point out that nothing is as simple as (almost) everyone always assumes.

posted 10 years ago

PredatH0r

Turns out that the cause of this was the AFK player detection code.
This is meant for FFA, CA, FT so that players with < 500 dmg or a taken/given ratio > 10 are ignored. Unfortunately this was also applied to duels, so quitting before dealing 500 dmg caused the player to be ignored.
That problem was found some time ago, but the fix didn't work as expected.
I'll be releasing another fix today.

posted 10 years ago